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The One True b!X

However, the County Attorney's analysis, it should be noted, does not rest upon the statutory issue. Rather, it argues that whatever one's reading of the statutory definition of marriage, the constitutional prohibition against discriminatory laws trumps it.

Worldwide Pablo

That's all true, and WWP considered that, b!X.

WWP can say this from his personal experience of knowing the county attorney: She is no slouch on these sort of matters, and if there's any silver lining, it's that Agnes' always excellent legal analysis will prevail.

Fingers crossed, all the way around.

Jack Bog

On a quick reading of the county attorney's opinion, I think the Oregon Supreme Court will have to decide the state constitutional issue. Is the Tanner decision correct, that gays are a "suspect" classification? And how strong is the state's interest in restricting marriage to hetero couples? That's all Sowle really has to stand on. The statutory "plain language" point seems quite bogus.

hot toddy

I don't think you are a killjoy, WWP. I have my worries too - although reading the comments so far has brightened my hopes a bit!

Isaac Laquedem

Since PGE v.Bureau of Labor and Industries, 317 Or 606 (1993), the state supreme court has limited its ability (and thus the ability of lower courts) to look at legislative intent. If the statute is clear then the court does not look at legislative history to determine what the legislature really meant. Only if the statute is not clear does the court look at legislative history to determine intent.

I don't think that any session of the Oregon legislature that amended the marriage laws thought that the laws permit same-sex marriage. But the Oregon statute that defines marriage as a contract that can be entered into by males (not singular, but plural) 17 and older, and by females 17 and older, without specifically saying that one must be male and the other female. An Oregon court could reasonably hold that, whatever the legislature might have *meant* by the statute, what they *said* was that a marriage must include two partners who are each male or female (maybe hermaphrodites aren't allowed to marry?) and are 17 or older. Because that statute is plain, the court wouldn't look at the intent.

brett

No way. PGE v. BOLI says text, then context, then intent. What you would ask a court to do is to hold that the statute in question clearly authorizes marriage between two people of the same gender. It does not clearly authorize that. It does not clearly ban such marriages, either; that's the point, that it's unclear. If the statute can reasonably be read either way, it's unclear. That is the case here.

Worldwide Pablo

Brett, WWP is working up a post on this very topic. Stay tuned. [As you probably might surmise, it's been Topic A at the Office this week.]

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